Below is a transcribed version of The Nail Hub Podcast, Episode 97: Interview With Celina Ryden. To listen, click here.

Elizabeth: Welcome to "The Nail Hub" podcast, powered by NAILS Magazine, where you'll find all the business advice, motivation, and nail industry information you need to be a successful nail professional. I'm Elizabeth Morris and thank you for joining me today.  

Celina: Cheers. Oh, we're having tea, of course.  

Elizabeth: What did I do with mine?  

Celina: Oh, here. With my... Oh, cheers then...  

Elizabeth: Skål.  

Celina: Skål. With my newly bought water boiler. We all need one.  

Elizabeth: You've got a brand new electric kettle, which I love electric kettles. So nice.  

Celina: Yes.  

Elizabeth: All righty. Well, this is the second time you've been on "The Nail Hub," which is pretty cool. And you haven't been on "The Nail Hub" since, I think before you did NTNA...  

Celina: No.  

Elizabeth: And all of that stuff, right?  

Celina: Yeah.  

Elizabeth: It's been three years, two-and-a-half years?  

Celina: Three. Yeah.  

Elizabeth: Three years?  

Celina: It should be, like, three years or something.  

Elizabeth: So I remember the first time because I randomly emailed you and I was like, "Hey, do you wanna be on my podcast?" And you were like, "Sure." So I remember calling you and, like, randomly recording it over the phone.  

Celina: Oh, I know.  

Elizabeth: But that was awesome.  

Celina: It was.  

Elizabeth: And since then, a lot has changed, right? So...  

Celina: Oh, yeah. Definitely. Because that should have been, like…even before, like, NTNA or when it started or something.  

Elizabeth: I think it was right before.  

Celina: Oh, my God. 

Elizabeth: So before you were put through all of the challenges and everything and all the craziness.  

Celina: I've been thinking if I should watch or listen to it, but I feel like, "Oh, God."  

Elizabeth: I hate listening...  

Celina: It's gonna be so cringy.  

Elizabeth: No. I hate listening to old stuff or, like, watching old videos. It's just the worst.   Celina: I know.  

Elizabeth: It's so awkward. But who cares about that? We're talking about now. So this year...last year, I did all kinds of stuff with the podcast. This year, I really started to take note of all of the stuff that's happening in our industry. So we've seen a lot of kind of a switch from very educated to people really, I think, struggling and trying to find maybe some easy workarounds to stuff. Like, we've seen a lot of…systems have come up. A lot of, you know, different types of ways to get people to be able to do nails. And I've also seen some things in the industry that I think, in my personal opinion, are not necessarily the direction I would love my industry to go, so it made me think about 2018, what kind of industry do we want to have, you know? Are we even thinking about that? I feel like a lot of us are just at our tables working one set after another and we're not actually thinking about forward. Where are we going?  

Celina: Sure.  

Elizabeth: So on that note, I wanted to find out from you, you know, especially with all of the stuff that you've been doing over the last three years since we talked, and I know you've been up to a lot of stuff, you know, what's your take on it? And, you know, what would you like that if you could make your ideal industry, what would that look like?  

Celina: Well, I think that, obviously, a lot less drama. I mean, that's just... that's what it all comes down to.  

Elizabeth: That's a good point.  

Celina: No. I mean, what... I think that when I did the NTNA stuff, what hit me the most was that, "Oh, my God, are people really this jealous?" and, "Are people, like, really this evil?" Like... No. We went through so much crap from the other contestants and people that were supporting these other contestants, and it was a total mess. And that was pretty much why me...well, it started out with me and Sarah.  

We really bonded because the first week, I won the first challenge, and I… at the moment I won that challenge, oh, my God, I got so much hate targeted on me and the other... So I'm not gonna say, like, everyone because it wasn't all of them. It was just kind of, you know, a couple. But at least a couple. That's too much. So it was just... it was too much going on. They were sending e-mails to, like, NAILS Mag, and say, "Oh, they're cheating and...." It was, like, all this crap.  

And then when Sarah won the next challenge, she got all of that, and so that's kind of where I reached out to her. And we started talking, and we talked every single day for a, what, a year, nine months, because we needed that support. Because we are, I would say… like we're a little bit, maybe like a little bit more sensitive in that sense. So we needed help and support from each other. And then Winnie came into our little group, like, later on when she was on the top three and we really, you know… we hit it off, like, extremely well.  

So I would say that because we helped each other from day one. And, like… well, at least for me and Sarah, I was so happy for her whenever she won a challenge. And we supported each other and kind of gave each other advice. I mean, we would have even sent a little, you know, picture of whatever we were doing and we were talking about them like, "No, you need to change that. You need to do that." And she did the same with me. So we really helped each other and… I mean, I was so happy if she won and, you know, same thing back.  

Elizabeth: And vice versa.  

Celina: And then final… same thing with all of us three, that we supported each other all the time. Like, I had my back problems, and they were, like, supporting me every single day. Sarah had her kids, and we supported her. Winnie had a problem with her arm, and we supported her. And I think that is what I wanna see more in the industry. I know it's...  There's a picture out there when, from the finals, when we're sitting next to each other and holding hands.  

Elizabeth: I remember you posted that, too, which was really cool.  

Celina: And it was just a... it's just a picture of us holding hands, and I think that that kind of sums up what I wanna see in the industry. Like, we need to support each other. Hate and jealousy, it's gonna bring everyone down.  

Elizabeth: Right.  

Celina: So I just wish people could be more supportive of each other and don't be jealous. I mean, there is enough space for everyone.  

Elizabeth: I mean, do you... where do you think that kind of, you know, stems from? Like, if you had an idea of, you know, how it could change and how it could be fixed, I mean, what would you say, you know? Do you feel like the drama comes from a certain source or do you think that people don't give themselves enough credit and they, you know... What do you think it is?  

Celina: I would say, probably it's just insecurity, and people are afraid that they won't make enough money or... I mean, it's a tough business, so I think that this is kind of the survival of the fittest, I guess. So…  

Elizabeth: I think that makes sense. I think that's interesting. I definitely agree with you on a lot of points on that, which is there is... Actually, one of my favorite quotes is, "A rising tide floats all boats." And, actually, Alyssa told me that...

Celina: Oh, really?  

Elizabeth: While we were here. And I was like, "Yes. I love that quote." But it is true because even if someone else is raising the waters, right, per se, everyone else gets benefited by it which is, you know, whether you're able to take classes, right? Like, I just was able to take a class with you while I've been here, which was awesome, and rather than having feelings of jealousy about it and being like, "Oh, I wish I was in the spotlight right now," you know, or trying to make it about me, I really enjoyed learning from you and just letting you do your thing, kind of seeing you in your natural environment. And I think a lot of people maybe just need to relax.  

Celina: Definitely.  

Elizabeth: Right?  

Celina: Definitely.  

Elizabeth: Just relax a little bit and have fun.  

Celina: Absolutely.  

Elizabeth: I feel like we are in a fun industry and people make it so serious. 

Celina: Absolutely.  

Elizabeth: It's like one of the funnest industries ever. We get to play with nails and glitter and crystals and all of the stuff, and they're so dead serious about it...  

Celina: I know.  

Elizabeth: Like it's life or death.  

Celina: There is so much drama going on everywhere. But I think that, you know, if we... if you just think about, like, a salon, I mean, how much drama do you get at a salon?  

Elizabeth: Right.  

Celina: Only women. I mean, it's gonna be a lot of drama, and that is just that tiny little space. And then just think about, like, the whole nail industry, like, mostly women, you know, that's just how it is. I mean, I don't know if it was like a business with only men, I don't know what that would have looked like. But it is a drama business because we have a lot of women. So, of course that's just how it is.  

Elizabeth: I like that a lot. So for you, you know, I always bring up this idea because I'm psycho, and this is what I think about late at night while I can't sleep is I imagine myself at 125 years old, shriveled in my little bed, and I think about looking back on my life and going, "What did I do?" Right? What did I contribute? Am I happy? Do I remember anything? And I wanted to hear from, you know, what would you love to have as your mark on the world? You know, I know you've got a lot of stuff in the works right now, and I know you're one of those people that you do really care about what you do. You put your whole self into everything that you do, whether it's dance, singing, right?  

Celina: Yeah.  

Elizabeth: You're doing your podcast in Swedish. You're, you know, an amazing educator and nail artist. And you literally throw yourself into everything. So, obviously, this is, you know, maybe an easy question for, you know.  

Celina: No. Probably not.  

Elizabeth: But...  

Celina: But anyways.  

Elizabeth: But what would be the mark you'd want to say, "Hey, this is what I contributed to the world or the nail industry or whatever that would be?"  

Celina: I would say, like, I've always had this passion of taking people in and make them feel better. Like, if I would go back, what is it, like, 10, 7 years, when I was doing my dancing and everything, I had... I actually started a dance group called Mini Vibe. And I actually...  

Elizabeth: That's cute.  

Celina: I actually had already a dance group called Feminine Vibe, and that was for, like, the little, like, older girls. I mean, they were maybe 14, 15... no, 13 even, and then we have an audition to this at the dance school where I worked. And I had a bunch… like, one year, I had a bunch of, like, 10, 12-year-old girls, so I really wanted to be in this group because they looked up to these girls so much. And one of these girls, I know... I knew her a little bit from before and her mother, and I knew that she had some troubles with, like, bullying in school. Like, she was a little bit of an outcast. She was having a hard time. So I figured, you know what? I'll just start...I'll start Mini Vibe. From Feminine Vibe to Mini Vibe.   

Elizabeth: That's cute.  

Celina: So I'm gonna take care of this girl. So I was maybe like, 10, 9 girls, and they became my life because I wanted them to have a safe environment, like a safe spot. When we got into the dance studio, they wouldn't have to bother or care about anything that was going on, like, outside of that. Like, if they were being bullied at school or having a hard time with their families or friends or whatever it could be, like, in here, we're all... it's a safe zone. And I was like their mother, you know, big sister. And I taught them about, like... it was more than dance. It was kind of, like, how do you present yourself? Like, how do you act towards other people?  

And was kinda like, you know, kill them with kindness. You never do anything like this. And it was... and I taught them, like, this moral kind of stuff and really wanted them to become the best that they could be and be nice people. We don't bully other people. We treat other people with respect, and they were supposed to set a good example for the younger kids that were brought up with the dance, like, within the dance school and everything. And we did that for a couple years, maybe, like, five or six years, so I followed them. I saw them grow up.  

Elizabeth: That's so cool.  

Celina: And they were my girls. So... and it's so cool when I look back because they did really become a huge, like, well, role model for so many of the other girls because there were so well kind of brought up. And I taught them… like, so when you... when we're doing these huge shows together with the entire school, "You need to do this. You need to present yourself in this way. You need to be nice and respectful towards, you know, the younger kids and the older kids and..." So that was really important to me. So that is… I think, that kind of sums up what I do. Like, it's just kind of comes pretty naturally that I wanna have a bunch of people that I can kind of,… you know, so I can use to set a good example for the business that I'm in regardless if it's like dancing or nails or whatever it could be.  

Elizabeth: Right.  

Celina: So I think that, you know, when it comes to YouTube or Instagram, like, hate comments and stuff like that, I always try to set a good example and ignore and block and be like, "No, we're all friends in here. We don't say bad things." So I think that that would be a goal for me, just make everyone... I just... all the hate that's going around in the world, I just can't take it. I can't take it and I don't understand people that sit behind a computer and say evil or, you know, weird stuff to people, and just to make them sad. I don't understand that. So that's… I think that's one of the main things I wanna do.  

Elizabeth: I like that. I think that's really good. I think, you know, they're called Internet trolls, right? I mean, it's these people who are keyboard warriors. It's people that aren't creating, aren't, you know, there in person, have no idea who you are, and just have an opinion about stuff. And, of course, haters are gonna hate, but I like that. I think if you can pass that on to a lot of other people, which is, even in the face of these haters, even when you're confronted with this type of drama, still being professional, still keeping it together, still showing people that you have kindness and love in your heart, and I think that's awesome. And I think kind of, like, when we're talking about with the drama, I mean, at the end of the day, getting yourself involved in the drama doesn't really solve anything. And it is really hard because I'm sure you wanna punch a lot of people in the throat like I like to say.  

Celina: Oh, definitely.  

Elizabeth: I have the only time when I'm like, "Oh, my God. I just wanna punch you right now." Yep. But that really doesn't solve anything, so.  

Celina: No.  

Elizabeth: I think it's cool that you're trying to be a role model for people and always show that side of your professionalism.  

Celina: No. It's been an extreme learning curve for me because I'm always that kind of person. Like, if I see someone being bullied online, I jump straight into it and start… you know, like, what do I say, what do I do? I just defend that person in any way I can, and I always get the biggest punch, like, in the end of it. But it's, like, I take it. I wanna stand up for that little person and I can't help it. That's just kinda, you know… it's in my system. I just need to do it. But so that's probably what I would wanna do.  

But, you know, like, me a couple of years back, if I got a hate comment or anything, I would… first of all, I would be so devastated, so sad, and I would probably answer something like really cheeky back. Just something that, you know, as a newbie… a newbie, when it comes to hate comments, so... But then it's definitely been a learning curve. So now I was in a… I was put in a very, like, public situation and I had to defend myself from something that could definitely be... well, not... it wasn't gonna ruin my brand or anything in Sweden, but it would have put me in a weird situation, like...  

Elizabeth: Right. You were telling me a little bit about that.  

Celina: I know. So... but what I'm really proud of is that when I... when people actually reached out to me and asked for my side of the story, I just told them that, you know, I did it in a… like, as a professional way that I possibly could because I wanted to stop the whole thing. And I think that I did because I didn't wanna have more drama, more negativity or anything. I didn't even, like, wanna put more... I didn't wanna put more hate towards the other end of the story. Like, I just wanted it to quit. And I actually got a couple of comments saying that like, "Applaud. That was good. That was good. Like, you stopped it right there. It was very professional." And I think that that's the way to go.  

Elizabeth: What do you think has helped you? So, I mean, if you were to look back at yourself, because I know I've matured a lot just from these types of experiences and you kind of learn the lesson sometimes of, "Ooh, maybe I should have handled that differently," but in your perspective, if you were to look at Celina, who she was five years ago versus today, and, obviously, you've got a thicker skin, which is, you know, something that just happens naturally, but what would you say is something that helps you, you know? Because I know there's probably a lot of people in the industry, and probably a lot of people who are listening that are saying, "Hey, that's great that you can be so professional, but I don't feel like I have that capability." What would you say was something that kind of helped you develop this ability?  

Celina: For me, it was just getting punched after punch after punch. It's sad but, for me personally, that's what I need to have before I can change.  

Elizabeth: Right.  

Celina: So...but I would say, like, everything you put online, everything you do is gonna come back to you, so just be very careful with what you say. And even if you feel like, oh, you know, your fingers are itching and you wanna write that, like, "Shut up you, beep," don't do it because it's only gonna come back to you. And it sounds very cliché but you don't wanna be put on the same level as that person. You wanna set a better example. You wanna be up here instead of down here.  

Elizabeth. Right.  

Celina: So just...I don't know. Try to be Celina 2018 and not be Celina 2015 or 2014, like... That's all I can say.  

Elizabeth: No. I mean, that was awesome. I mean, that's so true. No. It is. I think that's what people don't realize is that it's not magic. It's not that once you start to grow with your career or you start to gain success that automatically there's a manual that comes with it, like, "Oh, here's how you can, you know, operate, as soon as you start becoming more popular." Or, you know, there's no kind of rule book that we're given to be able to operate successfully. But I think, like you said, you know, kind of paying it forward by being a role model to people is really good and, hopefully, that helps people have confidence in themselves.  

Celina: Definitely.  

Elizabeth: So... no, I think that's great and I know that you've got a lot of amazing stuff planned which we're gonna talk about a little bit later. Can't talk about it now.   

Celina: No.  

Elizabeth: But lots of cool stuff to come. And one of the questions I had for you in regards to that is how do you, you know... we kind of talked about this a little bit earlier, is just that feeling of when you get worn out and then you need to stay motivated because, of course, you have these goals, right? You're like, "I want to, you know…I wanna help my industry. I want to educate. I want to be that role model for people." What are some of the things that really help you fill yourself back up and keep you running on full steam?   Celina: Well, definitely, I isolate myself. We haven't talked about this.   

Elizabeth: I call it bubble time.  

Celina: Oh, absolutely.  

Elizabeth: Bubble time.  

Celina: Bubble time. I need my bubble time. And we were also talking about this, that some people don't really understand why you need to isolate yourself or why you get so drained by doing all of this. But I would definitely say one of my biggest… it's like a craving I get, it's to be out in our vacation house. And you've seen pictures of it.  

Elizabeth: It's so nice.  

Celina: So... No. It's because it's kind of, like, Herring Redmond.

Elizabeth: It's very quiet.  

Celina: It's very quiet and it's, you know, the forest and you have the trees and you have the water. And it's, like, very still and quiet and like me. We have neighbors but… I mean, it's not, like, up close to you. So you're really… like, you're kind of isolated a bit. And that cabin was built by my grandfather.  

Elizabeth: Oh, really?  

Celine: Yeah. It was.  

Elizabeth: Oh, that's so cool. I didn't know that.  

Celina: So, of course, it means a lot to me. Like, you have that special vibe in there, like, very homey and... You know, that's definitely where I gain a lot of energy. So just being out there, being with my mom and dad, and Christian, and Martin, my dog, that's definitely something that I crave after a full six months of traveling back and forth or even in between, just going away for a couple of days and come back. But other than that, I kind of feel, you know, a little bit sad that I wish… and we talked about this as well, I wish that I could spend more time with my non-nail friends because it's… I think it's important to kind of set yourself apart from the nail industry sometimes and not only talk about nails every single day.  

Elizabeth: Right.  

Celina: So I actually... well, recently, I've got more and more cravings just being around people that don't do nails at all. They know nothing about nails. So I would say that's also a good thing. But… just like sitting in the couch and watching Netflix, that's my thing. Watching "Stranger Things," watching horror movies, "Simpsons," "Family Guy," you know, that's where I gain a lot of energy. And just to kind of have… you know, me and Christian, we're on, like, in the corners of our huge couch and we have Martin, you know, going back and forth. Usually, he's with me. We're cuddling up and... Martin gives me so much energy. Like, I know that that's, like, a real thing, that actually pets give you energy.  

Elizabeth: Absolutely. Absolutely.  

Celina: And then...  

Elizabeth: No. I think that's cool. It's like a... it's, like, kind of what you said about how you created that safe zone, right?  

Celina: Yeah.  

Elizabeth: And I think people forget that you kind of need to create your own safe zone, too, which is whatever that is. I mean, it could be your couch, or it could be a place that you go to, or it could just be having a nice cup of tea and a blanket. But I think that's cool that you're, you know… you've got these safe zones that you've set up for yourself so you can kind of retreat and rejuvenate and then come back when you're ready.  

Celina: Do you have a safe zone?  

Elizabeth: Mine is pretty much my couch, you know.  

Celina: Oh, really?  

Elizabeth: Actually, probably, I'm such a... I love my bed. I don't know if anyone else is like this, but my husband hates it. I actually, like, would eat in my bed. Like, I love my bed. Like, if I could live in my bed, I would live in my bed. I love just sweatpants, blankets, cozy stuff.  

Celina: And tea.  

Elizabeth: And tea. And oddly enough, because I'm an old lady at heart, I think, like, anything that has to do with, like, needlework or knitting or anything...  

Celina: Oh, that's right.  

Elizabeth: Where you kind of, like, get in the zone. Anything that helps to just, like, pull me out of my brain and I can just zone out. I love it.  

Celina: Oh, do you know what I have? Computer and TV games. Oh, my God.  

Elizabeth: For sure. For sure.  

Celina: That's the best thing. No. I've always been a gamer nerd, but it's like, you know, with Nintendo, Zelda, Mario and stuff like that. I told you about my Amiga when I was like seven or eight. It's, like… no, I totally space out and... Actually, you know what? I did this when I was a kid as well. So we had... well, I actually... I've been a Mac girl since I was a kid, so we have always been a Mac family since my mother worked with... in a commercial and then stuff like that. So I had these games and they were kind of, like, adventure puzzle games...  

Elizabeth: Cool.   

Celina: So you have to think, like, a lot. It really worked up your brain capacity. So one of them was called, like, Atlantis and Myst.   

Elizabeth: Oh, I played Myst.  

Celina: Oh, my God.  

Elizabeth: Myst is so good.  

Celina: No. I'm, like, a huge... I'm... it's like a cult.  

Elizabeth: It's impossible though.  

Celina: No.  

Elizabeth: Like, I remember when I was a little kid, it was, like, impossible to figure some of the stuff out.  

Celina: Well, actually, I wasn't a big fan of the first Myst because it looks like one pixel is moving... you're working your way around in a pixel. But, like, the second one, River, oh, my God. I was playing that so many times, and third one, fourth one. They were all amazing. And actually, I found the third one recently and we set it up in our living room so that I can play it from Christian's computer or the PC or whatever. 

Elizabeth: That's so awesome.  

Celina: And, you know, it was… like, I remember it being so good. Like, the graphics was like amazing.  

Celina: And then when you look at it, it's… like, "Oh, shit. Was I actually playing this?" But after a while, you get into it and after a takes like an hour, and after… you know, you're, kind of, like, "Oh, my God. This is so good." But, no. It's amazing. And that's what I did. Like, I had a hard time in school. I always felt like an outcast, and I was working so hard. And I had a lot of pressure from myself, like, to be perfect but especially, you know, with friends because I was so awkward. I don't know what it was but I over think. And I always felt like I was an old, you said, an old woman or man trapped into a kid's body.   So I was kind of… like, when they were doing all the kid stuff, I was looking at it as like, "Oh, I've been doing this probably 100 times in previous lives, so I'm kind of..." You know, it was like I was playing being a kid. So I was kind of like a fraud all the way. But anyways, so what I did is that I'd play these games, like, every single night. I went into this bubble and I sat, and I played these games, and I was so into it. It was… like, my brain was in that game.  

Elizabeth: That was like me with Lemmings. Like, I was obsessed with freaking Lemmings.  

Celina: I know. Love Lemmings. So that's what I did and I think that's probably what I still do. I jump into video games or whatever it could be, and I disappear.  

Elizabeth: I'm a big believer in bubble time. And I'm the same. Like, my husband and I love video games and... It was funny because my mom actually hated video games when I was growing up. Hated it.  

Celina: Wow.  

Elizabeth: We weren't even allowed to have a Nintendo, like, nothing.  

Celina: Oh, really?  

Elizabeth: And I remember I didn't actually get... we had computer games here and there, which I was telling you. Like, having to do MS-DOS games. It's, like, a stupid game to open and I was like, "Ah, I can't remember how to do this." And I'm eight years old. No. But I agree. I think... And it's different for everybody. I mean, some people, I think, fall into the category of, like, reading or, you know, they love watching movies or they love video games. But I agree with you. I think what you said was really important, which is, we all love what we do, but I think it can also make us kind of sick if we don't have something else to balance it out, right?  

Celina: Yeah. Definitely.  

Elizabeth: And I know that, you know, it's different for every person, but, I mean, for me, I love video games, too. I'm obsessed with them, and when I can find time to play them, it ends up being like an eight hour day of, like... 

Celina: Oh, I know.  

Elizabeth: You know, you think it's been like half an hour, and you're like, "Oh, my God. It's been six-and-a-half hours and I've been sitting here."  

Celina: I mean, seriously. When Nintendo Switch came out, I was like, "Okay, so no one is gonna have to talk to me for about a couple weeks. So I'm gonna be here in my kit..." And I was actually playing that at our cabin, and Christian was kind of like, "So are you gonna eat or..."  

Elizabeth: Go outside.  

Celina: Do some..."

Nope. No. I need to finish this. I need to finish." So that's my bubble time. I go full in. So, no. I love it. I totally love it. And the funny thing is that I actually… my parents love it as well. I mean, they bought me that Amiga computer and I remember that so well. It was, like, I got it for Christmas.  

Elizabeth: That's so awesome.  

Celina: And I opened the box and was like, "What did you just give me? This is not pink. It's not a Barbie. It's not..." I love Lego, Lego-building stuff. That was my thing. I was so good at building Legos like, "Oh, my God." But I was like, "No. What is this? It looks weird. What can I do with this?" And they're like, "Oh, my God. We're gonna start playing with this." I was like, "Yeah. Whatever." And then they set it up and was actually, like, secondhand, so I got a box full with these discs with...  

Elizabeth: That's so cool.  

Celina: With all of these games, and they were all copied, of course. But, anyways, some of them worked. Some of them didn't. So... but my parents love playing computer games with me.  

Elizabeth: That's awesome.  

Celina: And my mom, we played, like, Myst and everything together. At least she loved that, and me and my dad were playing Lemmings together. So, no. That was definitely a huge part of me growing up.  

Elizabeth: That's so awesome. I love that. I know. Nerds at heart. I know. I love it.  

Celina: Have you... well, you have seen my living room?  

Elizabeth: Yeah. Well, I've seen it... It's so funny because you post a picture about something totally different and then I was like, "Oh, cool. You're doing a podcast. Blah. Blah. Blah." And me, I'm like, "Oh, my God. You have a Nintendo, Super Nintendo. You have, like, this, that, Sega..."  

Celina: Sega.  

Elizabeth: Sega Genesis.  

Celina: Xbox.  

Elizabeth: So I'm like...  

Celina: PS4.  

Elizabeth: Oh, my God. Of course, me, and I'm like, "Oh, my God. Look at how many game consoles you have in your living."  

Celina: We have them all. I... seriously, we have them all.   

Elizabeth: Oh, I'm so obsessed.  

Celina: Me and Christian, we have them all.  

Elizabeth: That's awesome.  

Celina: We just put our collections together and bam.

  Elizabeth: I love it.  

Celina: It's like the ultimate collection.  

Elizabeth: I love it.  

Celina: We have everything.  

Elizabeth: We just have Switch and PlayStation now, but I remember the good old Sega Genesis days and...  

Celina: Oh, man.  

Elizabeth: Good times.  

Celina: Yup.  

Elizabeth: No. I think that's awesome. So I think this is such good advice. I think it's good for people to hear that everyone needs this, right? I mean, it's not like we're more magical people that just are robots and keep going. I mean, we have to have the safe zone and the ability to regenerate ourselves, and I think this is really cool. And I definitely want to continue this conversation later because I wanted to talk to you about all of the awesome stuff that you're doing this year so that people can hear about, after you've had all of your bubble time, all of the awesome stuff you're gonna do.  

But we can't talk about that on this episode, so you guys, stay tuned. I've got more coming up with Celina in a later episode. She's got some awesome stuff scheduled for 2018 and beyond. Oh, that kind of sounds cool.  

Celina: Oh, it did.  

Elizabeth: Twenty eighteen and beyond.  

Celina: Oh, yay.  

Elizabeth: So we'll definitely continue this conversation, and you guys will get to hear more from her this year, and I can't wait to see all of the awesome stuff you do either. So... 

Celina: Exciting stuff.  

Elizabeth: And as one girl to another, I think it's awesome...  

Celina: Oh, thank you.  

Elizabeth: All of the stuff that you do.  

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